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+<h1>Engineering Circle Meeting 2024-12-30 </h1>
+
+<h2>Table of Contents</h2>
+
+- [Attendees](#attendees)
+- [Main Content](#main-content)
+  - [3.16](#316)
+  - [Minting](#minting)
+  - [Voting](#voting)
+    - [Note GEP](#note-gep)
+- [Product Management Meeting](#product-management-meeting)
+
+## Attendees
+
+- Lee
+- Ahmed
+- Sabrina
+- Mik
+- Kristof
+- Scott
+- Jan
+
+## Main Content
+
+- 3.15
+  - moved qsss story to 3.16
+- 3.15 patch
+  - local network
+    - add ETA
+      - first week of January
+        - 03/01/2025
+- 3.16
+  - TODO
+    - meeting for product management to define 3.16 stories
+      - define 2 remainin issues with no owner
+        - https://git.ourworld.tf/tfgrid/circle_engineering/issues/130
+        - https://git.ourworld.tf/tfgrid/circle_engineering/issues/139
+      - make sure every owner are aware of their stories with ETA and specs
+- How to improve grid release management
+  - owner of engineering circle must be clear, it's thabet
+  - we must set owners for issues that is fitting
+    - owner
+      - someone who know how to communicate around story and know how make it in time, and escalate if needed
+    - executor
+      - someone who can complete the task
+      - can be written in the story
+  - Executor and owner can be the same person
+
+### 3.16
+
+- lee working on
+  - bridge
+    - urgent to complete
+    - todo
+      - Ahmed to check if we can have other resources/help from devs to fix
+  - mycelium
+- qsfs
+  - blocked on zdb
+- have a call tomorrow with kristof and thabet
+  - same hour tomorrow
+  - notes product management
+    - what we need
+    - what can wait
+    - what are the specs
+      - KYC, etc.
+
+### Minting
+
+- 3 incidents
+  - included tfchain nodes, issues with upgrade
+    - 1 in october
+    - 2 in november
+      - nodes couldn't do uptime report
+      - have to remint
+  - solution
+    - increase the uptime room when there are grid month updates
+      - e.g.
+        - month of update the grid
+          - we give 2 days of offtime possible
+    - Not ideal for all cases... Need something else.
+
+### Voting
+
+- Can we go to token-based voting, tft on tfchain
+  - what market does and expects
+  - what investors expect
+- GEP
+  - change voting to token-based
+- need discussions
+  - token-based or farm-based
+    - if vote with farmers
+      - when minting issues
+        - we can't keep on paying for it
+    - certain things we can't vote becausenot the full community is represented
+
+#### Note GEP
+
+- Way forward
+  - write a gep
+    - to go to token-based voting
+    - then everyone can have a stake on the project and we can take decisions with the feedback of all the community
+    - once we have this, we can have gep on re-minting for november and december
+  - for v4 the model will be token-based voting
+  - we can implement it now for v3 to align with market
+- in the past, we granted tokens with compensation
+  - but we can't anymore, we need funds for foundation
+- we need to ask if we re-mint for october and november
+  - if we ask farmers, they will always say yes remint, but we need a system where the overall community votes on GEP so it's for the best of the whole TF ecosystem
+
+## Product Management Meeting
+
+- check forum posts on HA
+  - https://forum.threefold.io/t/threefold-grid-workloads/4466/2
+  - https://forum.threefold.io/t/tfgrid-4-0-service-levels/4467
+- discuss 3.16 management
+- discuss GEP for token-based voting