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Engineering Circle Meeting 2024-12-30
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+Table of Contents
+
+- [Attendees](#attendees)
+- [Main Content](#main-content)
+ - [3.16](#316)
+ - [Minting](#minting)
+ - [Voting](#voting)
+ - [Note GEP](#note-gep)
+- [Product Management Meeting](#product-management-meeting)
+
+## Attendees
+
+- Lee
+- Ahmed
+- Sabrina
+- Mik
+- Kristof
+- Scott
+- Jan
+
+## Main Content
+
+- 3.15
+ - moved qsss story to 3.16
+- 3.15 patch
+ - local network
+ - add ETA
+ - first week of January
+ - 03/01/2025
+- 3.16
+ - TODO
+ - meeting for product management to define 3.16 stories
+ - define 2 remainin issues with no owner
+ - https://git.ourworld.tf/tfgrid/circle_engineering/issues/130
+ - https://git.ourworld.tf/tfgrid/circle_engineering/issues/139
+ - make sure every owner are aware of their stories with ETA and specs
+- How to improve grid release management
+ - owner of engineering circle must be clear, it's thabet
+ - we must set owners for issues that is fitting
+ - owner
+ - someone who know how to communicate around story and know how make it in time, and escalate if needed
+ - executor
+ - someone who can complete the task
+ - can be written in the story
+ - Executor and owner can be the same person
+
+### 3.16
+
+- lee working on
+ - bridge
+ - urgent to complete
+ - todo
+ - Ahmed to check if we can have other resources/help from devs to fix
+ - mycelium
+- qsfs
+ - blocked on zdb
+- have a call tomorrow with kristof and thabet
+ - same hour tomorrow
+ - notes product management
+ - what we need
+ - what can wait
+ - what are the specs
+ - KYC, etc.
+
+### Minting
+
+- 3 incidents
+ - included tfchain nodes, issues with upgrade
+ - 1 in october
+ - 2 in november
+ - nodes couldn't do uptime report
+ - have to remint
+ - solution
+ - increase the uptime room when there are grid month updates
+ - e.g.
+ - month of update the grid
+ - we give 2 days of offtime possible
+ - Not ideal for all cases... Need something else.
+
+### Voting
+
+- Can we go to token-based voting, tft on tfchain
+ - what market does and expects
+ - what investors expect
+- GEP
+ - change voting to token-based
+- need discussions
+ - token-based or farm-based
+ - if vote with farmers
+ - when minting issues
+ - we can't keep on paying for it
+ - certain things we can't vote becausenot the full community is represented
+
+#### Note GEP
+
+- Way forward
+ - write a gep
+ - to go to token-based voting
+ - then everyone can have a stake on the project and we can take decisions with the feedback of all the community
+ - once we have this, we can have gep on re-minting for november and december
+ - for v4 the model will be token-based voting
+ - we can implement it now for v3 to align with market
+- in the past, we granted tokens with compensation
+ - but we can't anymore, we need funds for foundation
+- we need to ask if we re-mint for october and november
+ - if we ask farmers, they will always say yes remint, but we need a system where the overall community votes on GEP so it's for the best of the whole TF ecosystem
+
+## Product Management Meeting
+
+- check forum posts on HA
+ - https://forum.threefold.io/t/threefold-grid-workloads/4466/2
+ - https://forum.threefold.io/t/tfgrid-4-0-service-levels/4467
+- discuss 3.16 management
+- discuss GEP for token-based voting
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