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<h1>Engineering Circle Meeting 2024-09-12 </h1>
<h2>Table of Contents</h2>
- [Attendees](#attendees)
- [Main Content and TODO](#main-content-and-todo)
- [TODISCUSS - Next Meeting](#todiscuss---next-meeting)
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## Attendees
- Lee
- Mik
- Sabrina
- Scott
## Main Content and TODO
- git.ourworld.tf ops
- TODO
- Sabrina creates an issue to check how to manage the gitea instance, just like we deal with github instance
- Notes
- check the ops process for gitea git.ourworld.tf
- make sure the process is effective and can be done by different person to avoid bottleneck/SPOF
- Ops snapshot node
- TODO: Sabrina will check with Bert post 19 sept.
- Reference: https://github.com/threefoldtech/tfchain/issues/981
## TODISCUSS - Next Meeting
- To discuss
- Farmerbot-farmer-minting issue
- scott will present the issue and we can discuss with Thabet, Jan and Kristof on the call: we can't afford to lose farmers, and the error was on TF side, not the farmers.
- for now the proposition is (not ideal for farmers, we risk to lose farmers and nodes)
- make sure it doesn't happen again
- check with the team who implemented the changes
- ZOS team
- can't compensate from treasury
- can't remint
- not fair for non-fbot-farmer compared to fbot-farmer
- Farmers deploying on their own nodes
- for now they can get up to 90% discount
- 50% utilization rewards
- 50% dedicated node
- 60% staking discount
- 0.5 * 0.5 * 0.4 = 0.1
- If TFT price goes up, farmers can rent their full node and still farm TFT
- not sustainable
- starting from 2 cents tft
- farmers can make more money by renting the whole node and still farm
- Discussion
- how can we make sure this isn't happening for ZOS v4
- we'd need a GEP to change the discount and rewards
- info_grid manual (github) to info_tfgrid manual (git.ourworld.tf) migration
- discuss how to do this smoothly
- e.g.
- replace info_grid manual by info_tfgrid manual on manual.grid.tf
- OR we wait for the new markdown docs app?
- GEP TFT Voting
- Reference: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ovi2ecDI2G75CecLr2tKs7W5a69Ntxo-9F-qaVW7kFI/edit#heading=h.kyru52g80m08
- TODISCUSS
- check with team: add cool down for unpassed GEPs
- there should be some kind of "cool down" period before the (ammended) proposal is voted again depending on the percentage of votes against the proposal if it doesn't pass
- e.g.
- between 50 and 60 percent: 2 weeks cool down
- under 50 percent: 2 months cool down
- TODO
- discuss cool down details
- when ready we can submit the GEP
- add forum post + GEP to dashboard (ops + comms circles)