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+<h1>Engineering Circle Meeting 2024-09-12 </h1>
+
+<h2>Table of Contents</h2>
+
+- [Attendees](#attendees)
+- [Main Content and TODO](#main-content-and-todo)
+- [TODISCUSS - Next Meeting](#todiscuss---next-meeting)
+
+---
+
+## Attendees
+
+- Lee
+- Mik
+- Sabrina
+- Scott
+
+## Main Content and TODO
+
+- git.ourworld.tf ops
+  - TODO
+    - Sabrina creates an issue to check how to manage the gitea instance, just like we deal with github instance
+  - Notes
+    - check the ops process for gitea git.ourworld.tf
+      - make sure the process is effective and can be done by different person to avoid bottleneck/SPOF
+- Ops snapshot node
+  - TODO: Sabrina will check with Bert post 19 sept.
+  - Reference: https://github.com/threefoldtech/tfchain/issues/981
+
+## TODISCUSS - Next Meeting
+
+- To discuss
+  - Farmerbot-farmer-minting issue
+    - scott will present the issue and we can discuss with Thabet, Jan and Kristof on the call: we can't afford to lose farmers, and the error was on TF side, not the farmers.
+    - for now the proposition is (not ideal for farmers, we risk to lose farmers and nodes)
+      - make sure it doesn't happen again
+        - check with the team who implemented the changes
+          - ZOS team
+      - can't compensate from treasury
+      - can't remint
+        - not fair for non-fbot-farmer compared to fbot-farmer
+  - Farmers deploying on their own nodes
+    - for now they can get up to 90% discount
+      - 50% utilization rewards
+      - 50% dedicated node
+      - 60% staking discount
+        - 0.5 * 0.5 * 0.4 = 0.1
+    - If TFT price goes up, farmers can rent their full node and still farm TFT
+      - not sustainable
+        - starting from 2 cents tft
+          - farmers can make more money by renting the whole node and still farm
+    - Discussion
+      - how can we make sure this isn't happening for ZOS v4
+      - we'd need a GEP to change the discount and rewards
+  - info_grid manual (github) to info_tfgrid manual (git.ourworld.tf) migration
+    - discuss how to do this smoothly
+      - e.g. 
+        - replace info_grid manual by info_tfgrid manual on manual.grid.tf
+    - OR we wait for the new markdown docs app?
+  - GEP TFT Voting
+    - Reference: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ovi2ecDI2G75CecLr2tKs7W5a69Ntxo-9F-qaVW7kFI/edit#heading=h.kyru52g80m08
+    - TODISCUSS
+      - check with team: add cool down for unpassed GEPs
+      -  there should be some kind of "cool down" period before the (ammended) proposal is voted again depending on the percentage of votes  against the proposal if it doesn't pass
+         -  e.g.
+            -  between 50 and 60 percent: 2 weeks cool down
+            -  under 50 percent: 2 months cool down
+         -  TODO
+            -  discuss cool down details
+            -  when ready we can submit the GEP
+               - add forum post + GEP to dashboard (ops + comms circles)