Upgrade to threefold.io #52

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opened 2024-01-11 11:16:42 +00:00 by gosam · 14 comments
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  • People really need to understand and then they will evangelize
  • This is the new way how to do things ...
  • The Internet re-invented
  • Blockchain is not the solution
  • Why the design we suggest is the better design
  • Foundational layer for DePIN / the digital world
  • Compatible with _______ (AI, DePIN, Web3, IoT, VR, ... Digital World)

TBC ...

Need to add more information after talking to @despiegk ...

See this doc:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/10zYpWkb96cd5l2uBB0AhkrWrvV60ccB6moCzeieGlkM/edit?usp=sharing

- People really need to understand and then they will evangelize - This is the new way how to do things ... - The Internet re-invented - Blockchain is not the solution - Why the design we suggest is the better design - Foundational layer for DePIN / the digital world - Compatible with _______ (AI, DePIN, Web3, IoT, VR, ... Digital World) TBC ... Need to add more information after talking to @despiegk ... See this doc: https://docs.google.com/document/d/10zYpWkb96cd5l2uBB0AhkrWrvV60ccB6moCzeieGlkM/edit?usp=sharing
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Having a meeting this Friday on this topic. With Sasha here, we can make some nice progress quickly.

Having a meeting this Friday on this topic. With Sasha here, we can make some nice progress quickly.
gosam removed this from the (deleted) project 2024-02-02 09:16:24 +00:00
gosam added this to the February 05 - February 18 project 2024-02-02 12:31:38 +00:00
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Now live on www2.threefold.io, feedback appreciated

Now live on www2.threefold.io, feedback appreciated
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Notes

  • I'd rather go with https://manual.grid.tf/farmers/3node_building/3node_building.html instead for the build a node link. (https://www2.threefold.io/farm/) instead of the diy complete guide link.
  • I thought the website having all white as background color looked nice. now the pastel colors are there but not enough to create a rhythm. maybe if we want pastel colors we should have pastel, white, pastel, etc. in the different sections of each page. instead of one section pastel, then the rest white.
  • the symbols/icons above learn how to participate and get started with the manual don't seem related to the texts they are linked to (main page)
  • overall it looks good.
# Notes - I'd rather go with https://manual.grid.tf/farmers/3node_building/3node_building.html instead for the build a node link. (https://www2.threefold.io/farm/) instead of the diy complete guide link. - I thought the website having all white as background color looked nice. now the pastel colors are there but not enough to create a rhythm. maybe if we want pastel colors we should have pastel, white, pastel, etc. in the different sections of each page. instead of one section pastel, then the rest white. - the symbols/icons above learn how to participate and get started with the manual don't seem related to the texts they are linked to (main page) - overall it looks good.
gosam removed the due date 2024-02-02 2024-02-14 13:42:25 +00:00
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Notes 2

  • newsletter: we state we send weekly updates, is this true? adjust accordingly

image

  • the footer and header are very heavy (lots of options), can we/do we want to simplify? It might be easier for newcomers to see simple options. E.g. as we simplified the buy n sell section, we could simplify those

image

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  • e.g. we can have on contact button in the footer that leads to all the all contact options (Chats button leads to the 3 chats)

  • e.g. TF Connect app leads to a page with the 2 options (android and iOS)

  • let's compare 3 "lines" of pictures

  • line 1
    image

  • line 2
    image

  • line 3
    image

  • my impression: the overall website is simple and elegant, and to contrast this "simple" basic background template, I think the first "line" of picture is amazing, people, real picture with actions, and also colorful image

  • I think the 2nd "line" is great as the symbols represent the thing it represents (signifier, signified)

  • The 3rd "line" of pictures/symbols seem unrelated to the things they represent.

  • So for line 3 I would go either with the "style" set in line 1 or 2, but I would avoid symbols not representing clearly the picture.

  • in brief, line 1 of pictures with the elegant simple design of the website makes a great combo I think!

# Notes 2 - newsletter: we state we send weekly updates, is this true? adjust accordingly ![image](/attachments/d0672942-ee51-4931-8682-e5486dc90973) - the footer and header are very heavy (lots of options), can we/do we want to simplify? It might be easier for newcomers to see simple options. E.g. as we simplified the buy n sell section, we could simplify those ![image](/attachments/4c38fbe1-ea43-42ab-bd60-001005b8fa2a) ![image](/attachments/21837353-85b8-496f-88ee-61338de92816) - e.g. we can have on contact button in the footer that leads to all the all contact options (Chats button leads to the 3 chats) - e.g. TF Connect app leads to a page with the 2 options (android and iOS) - let's compare 3 "lines" of pictures - line 1 ![image](/attachments/ad99301e-250f-4d93-9f47-42521290ecaa) - line 2 ![image](/attachments/e53b112a-a15c-4a47-86eb-2a849ddf4250) - line 3 ![image](/attachments/f28e5a33-5573-4fab-b688-cf84220b5955) - my impression: the overall website is simple and elegant, and to contrast this "simple" basic background template, I think the first "line" of picture is amazing, people, real picture with actions, and also colorful image - I think the 2nd "line" is great as the symbols represent the thing it represents (signifier, signified) - The 3rd "line" of pictures/symbols seem unrelated to the things they represent. - So for line 3 I would go either with the "style" set in line 1 or 2, but I would avoid symbols not representing clearly the picture. - in brief, line 1 of pictures with the elegant simple design of the website makes a great combo I think!
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Notes 3

  • continuing on the footer, we could aim for 4 hyperlinks for each of the 3 sections
    • take action (especially: remove buy the token, as kristof discussed lately we want people to "find" tft, and remove governance, we don't want links to the old library if possible)
      • Manual
      • Playground (this link will soon be Dashboard, when 3.13 is live)
      • TF Connect (we merge iOS and android in one as stated above)
      • Farm
    • talk to humans
      • chats
      • forum
      • email
      • support
    • about us
      • About
      • News
      • People (community, people, partners)
      • Blog

first, it's pleasing to the eye as it's symmetrical, and also it's easier for newcomers to get an overview of the website

# Notes 3 ## Footer reorganization - continuing on the footer, we could aim for 4 hyperlinks for each of the 3 sections - take action (especially: remove buy the token, as kristof discussed lately we want people to "find" tft, and remove governance, we don't want links to the old library if possible) - Manual - Playground (this link will soon be Dashboard, when 3.13 is live) - TF Connect (we merge iOS and android in one as stated above) - Farm - talk to humans - chats - forum - email - support - about us - About - News - People (community, people, partners) - Blog first, it's pleasing to the eye as it's symmetrical, and also it's easier for newcomers to get an overview of the website
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Notes 4

Overall header template (menu with drop-down options)

Here's a proposition: 4 main sections in the menu with drop-down options to facilitate navigation (like "help"'s dropdown in the menu)

  • About
    • ThreeFold (about current page)
    • People (people page)
    • Technology (how it works page)
    • Community (community page)
  • Participate
    • Build (for devs) (we could create one page for devs, as of now sysadmins and dev are seen as one on threefold.io, but it's more inline with the roles to have distinct pages)
    • Farm (for farmers) (farm page)
    • Deploy (for sysadmins) (deploy page)
  • Communication
    • News (news page)
    • Blog (blog page)
    • Newsletter (page to sign to the newsletter)
    • Contact (page with email and telegram groups of TF)
  • Help
    • current help drop-down menu
# Notes 4 ## Overall header template (menu with drop-down options) Here's a proposition: 4 main sections in the menu with drop-down options to facilitate navigation (like "help"'s dropdown in the menu) - About - ThreeFold (about current page) - People (people page) - Technology (how it works page) - Community (community page) - Participate - Build (for devs) (we could create one page for devs, as of now sysadmins and dev are seen as one on threefold.io, but it's more inline with the roles to have distinct pages) - Farm (for farmers) (farm page) - Deploy (for sysadmins) (deploy page) - Communication - News (news page) - Blog (blog page) - Newsletter (page to sign to the newsletter) - Contact (page with email and telegram groups of TF) - Help - current help drop-down menu
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@gosam I can help on this. I mean, if I propose too much big changes and that the project is urgent and you don't have enough time on your side. We can code it faster if we work as a team. Let me know.

@gosam I can help on this. I mean, if I propose too much big changes and that the project is urgent and you don't have enough time on your side. We can code it faster if we work as a team. Let me know.
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Newsletter

I subscribed to the newsletter and the email is from farmers@threefold.io

image

Maybe it could be from something more generic, e.g. info@threefold.io

"If I am not a farmer and I subscribed, it might confuse me."

# Newsletter I subscribed to the newsletter and the email is from farmers@threefold.io ![image](/attachments/7cc9a307-424e-471b-abc4-3ebcbe8b8ef0) Maybe it could be from something more generic, e.g. info@threefold.io "If I am not a farmer and I subscribed, it might confuse me."
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Hi @mik-tf, thanks for all of your feedback!

  • I changed the link on the farm page to build a node rather than the complete guide link
  • For now the pastels are there in the header because we have no images / branding decided on yet, we'll have a better solution in the long-term, I will work with Sasha on this
  • Agree on the icons on the home page, will also be part of a longer term branding exercise, but for now I have updated them
  • Newsletter I have addressed – I updated the text on the pop-up box and changed the default email – will also talk with Amanda about the newsletter in general
  • Header and footer let's discuss, it creates some complications
Hi @mik-tf, thanks for all of your feedback! - I changed the link on the farm page to build a node rather than the complete guide link - For now the pastels are there in the header because we have no images / branding decided on yet, we'll have a better solution in the long-term, I will work with Sasha on this - Agree on the icons on the home page, will also be part of a longer term branding exercise, but for now I have updated them - Newsletter I have addressed – I updated the text on the pop-up box and changed the default email – will also talk with Amanda about the newsletter in general - Header and footer let's discuss, it creates some complications
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Hello - I was not part of the creative workshop that may have happened on having a new website for Threefold. Here goes my comments - happy to discuss more

1- Ecstatically I do not like the yellow on the back. If we do not have budget for strong design execution I would keep the white background as before eventually. Also we mix real world pictures with AI generated pictures instead of having unity because of a design work. This is just for the style - it may look amateur

2- On the text, sentences for me or very long and complex : ThreeFold delivers a sovereign, scalable, peer-to-peer, and co-owned infrastructure layer on top of which to build a new Internet.
sovereign
peer-to-peer
co-owned
infrastructure layer

This is just man y adjectives. You may loose most of the people here if not hyper technical. Should we start by what problem it is solving? The why?

3- We put our main technology(Mycellium) on the same level that Tanzania willing to deploy it. Somehow we should keep things on one side very agnostic and focused on the technology and then talk about Tanzania and have a picture with the minister. It feels like we mix the core tech with the news so it does not look professional/solid. Even if I agree that this should be helping to show we are real and have real world application of our technology coming.

4- This is not our story it is yours? => why not it is "ours" it does not belong to them and not to us. Also the little lamp and the books for manuals are one more design style for the page.

Last but not least, I think we keep talking about new internet but this is what has been confusing most of the people. It is a peer to peer network connecting people who want to share information, run applications etc... talking about new internet makes it not possible in most people heads or even worst they think we want to replace the internet but they love the internet and they don't think it is broken at all.

Hello - I was not part of the creative workshop that may have happened on having a new website for Threefold. Here goes my comments - happy to discuss more 1- Ecstatically I do not like the yellow on the back. If we do not have budget for strong design execution I would keep the white background as before eventually. Also we mix real world pictures with AI generated pictures instead of having unity because of a design work. This is just for the style - it may look amateur 2- On the text, sentences for me or very long and complex : ThreeFold delivers a sovereign, scalable, peer-to-peer, and co-owned infrastructure layer on top of which to build a new Internet. sovereign peer-to-peer co-owned infrastructure layer This is just man y adjectives. You may loose most of the people here if not hyper technical. Should we start by what problem it is solving? The why? 3- We put our main technology(Mycellium) on the same level that Tanzania willing to deploy it. Somehow we should keep things on one side very agnostic and focused on the technology and then talk about Tanzania and have a picture with the minister. It feels like we mix the core tech with the news so it does not look professional/solid. Even if I agree that this should be helping to show we are real and have real world application of our technology coming. 4- This is not our story it is yours? => why not it is "ours" it does not belong to them and not to us. Also the little lamp and the books for manuals are one more design style for the page. Last but not least, I think we keep talking about new internet but this is what has been confusing most of the people. It is a peer to peer network connecting people who want to share information, run applications etc... talking about new internet makes it not possible in most people heads or even worst they think we want to replace the internet but they love the internet and they don't think it is broken at all.
gosam closed this issue 2024-02-15 14:20:38 +00:00
gosam reopened this issue 2024-02-15 14:20:44 +00:00
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Appreciate the feedback @Florian. Let's discuss.

Appreciate the feedback @Florian. Let's discuss.
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"Header and footer let's discuss, it creates some complications"

Alright. Let's discuss. I can help and make a branch with the updates needed on Zola if it can help.

"Header and footer let's discuss, it creates some complications" Alright. Let's discuss. I can help and make a branch with the updates needed on Zola if it can help.
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One thing I noticed on the current footer is that there's a mix of nouns and verbs under the "Take Action" section. "Manuals" especially feels awkward to me. Maybe can be "Learn" instead?

image

One thing I noticed on the current footer is that there's a mix of nouns and verbs under the "Take Action" section. "Manuals" especially feels awkward to me. Maybe can be "Learn" instead? ![image](/attachments/d3b800b5-ca32-4f53-8883-13b4c65cb6c5)
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Marking this as finished as a first version has been implemented. Will move hanging comments and actions to a new issue. Thanks all for your inputs.

Marking this as finished as a first version has been implemented. Will move hanging comments and actions to a new issue. Thanks all for your inputs.
gosam closed this issue 2024-02-16 11:19:35 +00:00
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