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+<h1>Engineering Circle Meeting 2024-09-09 </h1>
+
+<h2>Table of Contents</h2>
+
+- [Attendees](#attendees)
+- [Main Content](#main-content)
+  - [Minting Issue (July)](#minting-issue-july)
+  - [Mycelium](#mycelium)
+- [TODO - Next Meeting](#todo---next-meeting)
+
+---
+
+## Attendees
+
+- Scott
+- Mik
+- Lee
+- Sabrina
+
+## Main Content
+
+> Notes: Some of the content has been put in the next meeting section, for info and to be discussed on Thursday
+
+- The GEP on new way to vote on GEP has been decided:
+  - https://git.ourworld.tf/tfgrid/circle_promotion/issues/239#issuecomment-7628
+- dev team in egypt
+  - work being done
+    - to get zos 4 to get on mainnet
+      - devs on it
+    - fixes on billing, 50% utilization, done
+    - no new issues when testing
+  - working on tf connect app
+    - reviewed client
+    - had small blockage with node 14 not running
+      - ops fixed it in meantime
+    - work done: enabled kyc for users
+
+### Minting Issue (July)
+
+- farmerbot minting issue
+  - payout file has been distributed across signers
+    - 70 nodes affected
+      - doesn't get compensation
+      - but reminting with the period in mind with update
+  - other issue
+    - will be discussed by Scott on next call
+
+### Mycelium
+
+- mycelium UI
+  - Erwan working on it
+  - working on MacOS version
+  - submitted to testfly for MacOS
+    - first step
+      - set it to Apple App Store
+        - will be easier for users
+    - timeframe
+      - not yet
+      - needs to be tested
+
+## TODO - Next Meeting
+
+- To discuss
+  - Farmerbot-farmer-minting issue
+    - scott will present the issue and we can discuss with Thabet, Jan and Kristof on the call
+    - for now the consensus is:
+      - make sure it doesn't happen again
+        - check with the team who implemented the changes
+          - ZOS team
+      - can't compensate from treasury
+      - can't remint
+        - not fair for non-fbot-farmer compared to fbot-farmer
+  - Mycelium updates in the manual, to be confirmed with Thabet
+    - is it OK to wait until updates arew done for info_grid mycelium updates? or we push the current draft PR now
+  - Manual transfer
+    - from github to gitea
+      - Discuss how to proceed to officially transfer manual from github to gitea
+        - info_grid: https://github.com/threefoldtech/info_grid
+        - info_tfgrid: https://git.ourworld.tf/tfgrid/info_tfgrid
+  - check the ops process for gitea git.ourworld.tf
+    - make sure the process is effective and can be done by different person to avoid bottleneck/SPOF
+      - e.g.
+        - DNS websites projectinternetcapacity need to be removed as the project moved to threefold.io
+          - as of now we ask Kristof but it's a lot for one person
+  - Farmers deploying on their own nodes
+    - for now they can get up to 90% discount
+      - 50% utilization rewards
+      - 50% dedicated node
+      - 60% staking discount
+        - 0.5 * 0.5 * 0.4 = 0.1
+    - If TFT price goes up, farmers can rent their full node and still farm TFT
+      - not sustainable
+        - starting from 2 cents tft
+          - farmers can make more money by renting the whole node and still farm
+    - Discussion
+      - how can we make sure this isn't happening for ZOS v4
+      - we'd need a GEP to change the discount and rewards
+  - GEP on GEP method
+    - we have a consensus on the GEP
+    - when do we pass it?
+    - Comms circle will create a post announcing the GEP
+      - then we take questions, etc.
+      - once it's clear, we submit the GEP, with 15 days to vote