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+<h1>Engineering Meeting: 24-08-07</h1>
+
+<h2>Table of Contents</h2>
+
+- [Introduction](#introduction)
+- [Attendees](#attendees)
+- [Subject to Discuss](#subject-to-discuss)
+- [Main Content](#main-content)
+- [Todo Next Meeting](#todo-next-meeting)
+
+---
+
+## Introduction
+
+We provide information on the recent engineering meeting.
+
+## Attendees
+
+- Sabrina
+- Scott
+- Mik
+
+## Subject to Discuss
+
+- HDD-only node
+  - farming rewards?
+- Announcement of grid 3.15
+  - https://git.ourworld.tf/tfgrid/circle_promotion/issues/204
+- Defining products
+  - https://git.ourworld.tf/tfgrid/circle_promotion/issues/219
+- TF protection against cyber treats
+  - https://git.ourworld.tf/tfgrid/circle_promotion/issues/225
+- Recent GEP
+  - https://git.ourworld.tf/tfgrid/circle_promotion/issues/226
+
+## Main Content
+
+- HDD 
+  - didn't change rewards on this
+  - farmers should check if they want to add SSD to get more rewards
+  - we can see later with the team if we can change the farming rewards
+  - TODO
+    - discuss with thabet and jan
+- add folder with documents meeting in circle_engineering
+  - add meetings in markdown when we have meeting
+- question on violation status on grid for some nodes
+  - what happens with node assigned violation for network health check in zos
+    - events are not properly inscribed in tfchain
+    - some nodes won't mint for this reason
+  - just for July minting period
+  - still open discussion
+  - situation:
+    - with fbot node, when nodes wake up, cause sequence of events that is not correct with minting
+    - todo: check difference with minting then go from there
+  - scott proposition
+    - minting code can be adjusted to properly register the fact that nodes wake up
+      - some potential change that could resolve that
+  - todo: scott checks minting differences, and we discuss this with Lee on next meeting
+- issues
+  - 3.15
+    - still early to announce grid 3.15
+    - still thinking of changes needed
+    - discussion needed with the team
+  - define all products
+    - questions
+      - what are we planning to do
+      - two ways
+        - defining products so we can communicate about them
+        - or defining the products so we can implement them
+    - todo
+      - postgresql study done
+        - can see if it's worth it, if we can do it, see different options
+      - Juggler
+        - Timur is working on it to be implemented
+        - then we can see how to offer this as a product
+      - we will study the others
+      - once we have a basic overview
+        - we decide if some can be implemented, i.e. TF offers products
+    - general steps
+      - develop product specs in-house
+      - develop product itself
+        - e.g. juggler 
+      - use product in-house
+      - once it's used in-house and well oiled
+        - we can commercialize it
+          - this means doing the last steps to offer a viable product and monetize it (e.g. fiat payments via stripe)
+    - goal
+      - to be able to clearly explain the products
+    - steps
+      - define the product
+      - develop the product for in-house
+      - develop the product to commercialize
+    - who is responsible for these commercial products?
+      - DMCC all except Hero
+  - protection against cyber treat
+    - from dev perspective
+      - not sure if we have reached a consensus
+        - next meeting: priority
+  - GEP
+    - this is done
+    - close the recent GEP
+    - write new issues
+      - 1. issue
+        - and write a new GEP
+          - for updated proposed GEP
+          - need to discuss this with the team
+            - once we have a consensus, we can write the forum
+      - 2. issue
+        - importance of participation in GEP
+    - weight in vote
+      - can be sabotaged by big farmers
+- grid deployment project
+  - people blocked because of the hub
+  - hub has progression
+  - boot generator is being worked on
+  - todo meeting with bert and maxime
+
+## Todo Next Meeting
+
+- discuss if we change farming rewards for HDD-only node
+- violation of minting for some nodes
+  - Scott checks the differences
+  - discuss with Lee and Jan
+- 3.15
+  - discuss with the team the specs
+- define all products
+  - discuss and get feedback from other members
+- gep update
+  - discuss how we decide the 80% consensus
+- protection against cyber treats
+  - priority for next meeting
+  - discuss how we proceed