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<h1>Engineering Circle Meeting 2024-12-30 </h1>
<h2>Table of Contents</h2>
- [Attendees](#attendees)
- [Main Content](#main-content)
- [3.16](#316)
- [Minting](#minting)
- [Voting](#voting)
- [Note GEP](#note-gep)
- [Product Management Meeting](#product-management-meeting)
## Attendees
- Lee
- Ahmed
- Sabrina
- Mik
- Kristof
- Scott
- Jan
## Main Content
- 3.15
- moved qsss story to 3.16
- 3.15 patch
- local network
- add ETA
- first week of January
- 03/01/2025
- 3.16
- TODO
- meeting for product management to define 3.16 stories
- define 2 remainin issues with no owner
- https://git.ourworld.tf/tfgrid/circle_engineering/issues/130
- https://git.ourworld.tf/tfgrid/circle_engineering/issues/139
- make sure every owner are aware of their stories with ETA and specs
- How to improve grid release management
- owner of engineering circle must be clear, it's thabet
- we must set owners for issues that is fitting
- owner
- someone who know how to communicate around story and know how make it in time, and escalate if needed
- executor
- someone who can complete the task
- can be written in the story
- Executor and owner can be the same person
### 3.16
- lee working on
- bridge
- urgent to complete
- todo
- Ahmed to check if we can have other resources/help from devs to fix
- mycelium
- qsfs
- blocked on zdb
- have a call tomorrow with kristof and thabet
- same hour tomorrow
- notes product management
- what we need
- what can wait
- what are the specs
- KYC, etc.
### Minting
- 3 incidents
- included tfchain nodes, issues with upgrade
- 1 in october
- 2 in november
- nodes couldn't do uptime report
- have to remint
- solution
- increase the uptime room when there are grid month updates
- e.g.
- month of update the grid
- we give 2 days of offtime possible
- Not ideal for all cases... Need something else.
### Voting
- Can we go to token-based voting, tft on tfchain
- what market does and expects
- what investors expect
- GEP
- change voting to token-based
- need discussions
- token-based or farm-based
- if vote with farmers
- when minting issues
- we can't keep on paying for it
- certain things we can't vote becausenot the full community is represented
#### Note GEP
- Way forward
- write a gep
- to go to token-based voting
- then everyone can have a stake on the project and we can take decisions with the feedback of all the community
- once we have this, we can have gep on re-minting for november and december
- for v4 the model will be token-based voting
- we can implement it now for v3 to align with market
- in the past, we granted tokens with compensation
- but we can't anymore, we need funds for foundation
- we need to ask if we re-mint for october and november
- if we ask farmers, they will always say yes remint, but we need a system where the overall community votes on GEP so it's for the best of the whole TF ecosystem
## Product Management Meeting
- check forum posts on HA
- https://forum.threefold.io/t/threefold-grid-workloads/4466/2
- https://forum.threefold.io/t/tfgrid-4-0-service-levels/4467
- discuss 3.16 management
- discuss GEP for token-based voting