circle_engineering/meetings_notes/engineering_meeting_24-08-12.md

<h1>Developers Meeting: 24-08-12</h1>

<h2>Table of Contents</h2>

- [Introduction](#introduction)
- [Attendees](#attendees)
- [Main Content](#main-content)
  - [INCA Project](#inca-project)
  - [Cloud and Hero](#cloud-and-hero)
  - [Manual Updates: Pulumi and Terraform](#manual-updates-pulumi-and-terraform)
  - [Responsibility and Stories](#responsibility-and-stories)
  - [Threefold.io Caddy Issue](#threefoldio-caddy-issue)
  - [Community Meeting](#community-meeting)
- [To discuss next meeting](#to-discuss-next-meeting)
  - [Some Related Links](#some-related-links)

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## Introduction

We provide information on developers meeting.

## Attendees

- Ahmed
- Kristof
- Scott
- Mik

## Main Content

### INCA Project

- inca project
  - inspiration from hashgraph website
  - clear agreement between participants
  - tokenomics
    - Kristof finished a tokenomics version
    - 75% TFT to community
    - 25% to team, investors
  - conversion
    - all vesting
      - at first gets 60% of INCA
      - rest is unlock over time
    - farmers over 3 years
    - ecosystem over 4 years
    - investors
      - 1 quarter later
    - conversion: 1 TFT --> 1 INCA
    - first 1 billion is TFT
    - 3 next billions are INCA
  - liquidity pool
    - INCA, TFT, fiat currencies
      - how we convert in-between
    - e.g. someone pays capacity 
      - can pay in USD
        - buy from the liquidity pool
    - todo with liquidity pool
      - define how liquidity pool
        - accelerated liquidity pool
      - define how farmers will be paid in INCA
        - leave this to the COOP
  - utilization
    - 80% of utilization goes to farmers
    - 20% goes to cooperative
      - or 10% coop, 10% validator
    - rewards locked
      - coop decides how they want to use them
      - e.g. can say
        - rewards coming available
          - can use it for emerging country
          - can use for specific use case
          - use to drive demand

### Cloud and Hero

- cloud threefold
  - focus on pulumi
    - create and delete steps
- hero
  - bring first version of hero live
  - do for specific use cases
    - alternative to calendly

### Manual Updates: Pulumi and Terraform

- Manual updates overview
  - pulumi
    - section in manual cleaner than terraform
    - can use code
    - TF strong with infrastructure as code
      - UI, not really our strenght
    - todo: explain more for people who don't know about it
  - python and pulumi
    - once we have it we add it to the manual
- manual mycelium
  - updates from planetary to mycelium
    - OK for dev branch for now (manual.dev.grid.tf)
- manual python with pulumi
  - needs some configurations to be updated
    - Thabet will work on this and we can improve the manual when we get more python/pulumi info+content
  - more examples
    - threefoldtech/pulumi-threefold
      - link to examples
    - lead people to Python
      - Ahmed is working on this
  - explain better what the properties are
    - e.g. sizes
    - link to Pulumi docs
  - move pulumi above terraform
- terraform
  - terraform_full_vm
    - explain HRU, HDD
    - variable size, what is size
  - emphasis on example
  - add examples

### Responsibility and Stories

- responsibility of a story needs to be to someone who will own it
  - e.g. call the assigner evey day and see if it's being worked on
  - coordinator needs to find someone to take ownership
  - members
    - owner of a story
    - assigning
  - in a story
    - who owns it
      - takes responsibility that it gets done
    - person who needs to execute
      - if someone not doing the work, escalate to higher level, e.g. Kristof

### Threefold.io Caddy Issue

- threefold.io caddy issue
  - it has been fixed

### Community Meeting

- community meeting
  - more details on cyber security
    - no longer going to work
    - that is what we're going to do
  - Scott can discuss it but needs more info
    - what types of workloads won't work anymore
    - is it for all nodes or some nodes
    - could be good if farmers could opt-in or opt-out
- uniqueness identification
  -  civic.com, shufti pro

## To discuss next meeting

- discuss if we change farming rewards for HDD-only node
- violation of minting for some nodes
  - Scott checks the differences
  - discuss with Lee and Jan
- 3.15
  - discuss with the team the specs
- define all products
  - discuss and get feedback from other members
- gep update
  - discuss how we decide the 80% consensus
- protection against cyber treats
  - priority for next meeting
  - discuss how we proceed
- hack/ddos attack of threefold.io

### Some Related Links

- HDD-only node
  - farming rewards?
- Announcement of grid 3.15
  - https://git.ourworld.tf/tfgrid/circle_promotion/issues/204
- Defining products
  - https://git.ourworld.tf/tfgrid/circle_promotion/issues/219
- TF protection against cyber treats
  - https://git.ourworld.tf/tfgrid/circle_promotion/issues/225
- Recent GEP
  - https://git.ourworld.tf/tfgrid/circle_promotion/issues/226