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<h1>Engineering Circle Meeting 2024-09-16 </h1>
<h2>Table of Contents</h2>
- [Attendees](#attendees)
- [Main Content](#main-content)
- [TODO - Next Meeting](#todo---next-meeting)
- [TODISCUSS - Next Meeting](#todiscuss---next-meeting)
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## Attendees
- Lee
- Mik
- Sabrina
- Scott
- Thabet
## Main Content
- GEP Voting Process
- Cool down period
- Consensus
- we don't include it in GEP for now
- we make a GEP for cool down later if we think it's needed.
- Final version of GEP
- consensus
- https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ovi2ecDI2G75CecLr2tKs7W5a69Ntxo-9F-qaVW7kFI/edit#heading=h.kyru52g80m08
- What is next
- comms circle will publish GEP and let 1 week for the community to ask questions
- Next week (23rd of September), we will sart the GEP on the dashboard and have a 10 days period
- Voting Procedures
- when there's a GEP
- we have a meeting with stakeholders
- we decide the voting, e.g. yes or no
- we make sure the foundation votes for the GEP
- hetnzer work
- going well
- QSFS
- Lee is working on some issues
- Scott will respond to them
- Also working on a pulumi version
- GITEA Access: we fixed the issue of spammers
- https://github.com/threefoldtech/tf_operations/issues/2752
- summary
- now we set registration email verification
- shouldn't have any more spam
- if it's the case
- step 1. set captcha
- step 2. set manual email (verified by admins)
## TODO - Next Meeting
- Ops snapshot node
- TODO: Sabrina will check with Bert post 19 sept.
- Reference: https://github.com/threefoldtech/tfchain/issues/981
- GEP
- start GEP on dashboard 23rd of September, for 10 days period
- git.ourworld.tf ops
- issue to check how to manage the gitea instance, just like we deal with github instance
- Sabrina is taking care of this
## TODISCUSS - Next Meeting
- Things to discuss
- Thursday meeting
- Jimber situation
- discuss with Kristof
- push the 0S4
- how far we are with the network
- make a list of everything which is blocking
- Farmerbot-farmer-minting issue
- scott will present the issue and we can discuss with Thabet, Jan and Kristof on the call: we can't afford to lose farmers, and the error was on TF side, not the farmers.
- for now the proposition is (not ideal for farmers, we risk to lose farmers and nodes)
- make sure it doesn't happen again
- check with the team who implemented the changes
- ZOS team
- can't compensate from treasury
- can't remint
- not fair for non-fbot-farmer compared to fbot-farmer
- Farmers deploying on their own nodes
- for now they can get up to 90% discount
- 50% utilization rewards
- 50% dedicated node
- 60% staking discount
- 0.5 * 0.5 * 0.4 = 0.1
- If TFT price goes up, farmers can rent their full node and still farm TFT
- not sustainable
- starting from 2 cents tft
- farmers can make more money by renting the whole node and still farm
- Discussion
- how can we make sure this isn't happening for ZOS v4
- we'd need a GEP to change the discount and rewards
- info_grid manual (github) to info_tfgrid manual (git.ourworld.tf) migration
- discuss how to do this smoothly
- e.g.
- replace info_grid manual by info_tfgrid manual on manual.grid.tf
- OR we wait for the new markdown docs app?